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I have some engineering questions for my technically-minded watchers, since I can't find any credible online sources to answer them for me; I might even post this in the Forums someday:

"Given two hypothetical automobile engines of 'equal everything', one a V8 and the other a V6, what would be the difference in efficiency and in output?"

Assume the only obvious difference is that the V8 has two extra cylinders/pistons and shorter piston rods, necessarily; also, let's say the V8 has a 1:1 bore/stroke ratio, for the sake of simplicity & standardization.

"Equal everything" applies to all of the following:

1)   total displacement [example: both are 4.0-liter (hypothetical) engines].
2)   mechanical measurements/designs: cylinder bores; piston heads/rings; valves; spark-plugs; camshaft/crankshaft [notwithstanding necessary adjustments for two extra cylinders/pistons]; cooling-system; battery; transmission; drive-train.
3)   aggregate stroke [the total distance the pistons travel / total length of piston rods].
4)   air/fuel ratio [naturally aspirated] & compression ratio.
5)   engine weight [the iron-blocks weight the same (theoretically), only the shape differs: the V6 is shorter & deeper / the V8 is longer & shallower].
6)   vehicle weight [adjusting for any necessary balancing/suspension modifications per variable tasks].
7)   total fuel consumption [example: limited to one gallon per task and/or per hour].

My own Assumptions/Conclusions (drawn from the above equalities):

A)   Due to energy-conservation laws, since the only fuel (energy) source [gasoline & oxygen from the air, naturally induced] for both engines is the same, the total output (work) – and efficiency – should be the same upon task completion / fuel depletion [examples of various tasks: total laps traveled around a racetrack on one gallon of fuel and/or one hour; short-track drag-racing to reach finish-line first; top speed achieved on long, level track; hauling equally-heavy cargo/passengers on various terrain/traffic conditions].
B)   The V8 should be "smoother", due to more power-strokes per crankshaft revolution.
C)   The V8 should be capable of higher RPM's, thus producing more high-end/high-speed torque [due to the shorter stroke].
D)   The V6 should have more low-end/slow-speed torque, due to longer piston rods [more leverage on the crankshaft].

Additional Questions/Musings of mine:

1)  Would the maximum horsepower (foot-pounds) be the same for both engines [at their respective highest point]?
2)  Would the maximum torque (pound-feet) be the same for both engines [at their respective highest point]?
3)  Would their top speed be the same [allowing for a sufficiently long track for each to achieve its potential]?
4)  Are my assumptions on efficiency [equal terminal performance per equal fuel consumption] correct; if not, why?
5)  Are my assumptions in B, C, & D above, correct; if not, why?
6)  Would the friction/heat be equal, since the aggregate stroke and the total energy consumed / exhaust produced are equal?
7)  What would be the difference if the V6, instead of the V8, was designed with the 1:1 bore/stroke ratio [or some theoretically ideal performance-enhancing ratio]?
  • Mood: Wow!
  • Listening to: silence
  • Reading: online debates on engine designs
  • Watching: for grammatical errors (bunches)
  • Playing: hypothetical scenarios in my head
  • Eating: chocolate
  • Drinking: grape soda

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That's me in my icon - at 2 years old. I also have a larger, brighter duplicate of it within my scraps [see Gallery: Scrapbook]. 1 of the 2 originals [1970] seems to have developed a natural sepia-toned appearance...which lets you know how ancient I am!

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~Hatched-From-Tree May 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Woah! Thank you for the point donations! It was quite unexpected and brightened up my day! I'll be sure to put it to good use, maybe even donate a portion to other libertarians.
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~nodokava May 9, 2013  New member Professional Photographer
Thanks for the watch and Llama.
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`bohobella Jan 27, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
:la: Cake!

Thank you for all that! :cuddle:
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thank u for the points it means the world to me
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